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There has been a heated debate here in Indonesia about Metal and Idol fans. The debate including whether it's okay for them to chant and mosh anywhere it is, as long as it's their style of music that were playing.
My Experience
I've been really young and curious before, and of course as some of you already knew, i used to be an emo girl. Even though I like mostly punk rock kind of music. But I've been in lots of concert, especially Indie concerts in Bandung. I almost went to every concert that includes headbanging and of course Moshing.
At that time, I really do having fun with seeing and joining people moshing and headbanging, because I knew that they were also having fun, and we didn't disturb anyone. Most of them knew that if they were afraid with the moshpit/circle pit, they will scatter outside the moshpit...
I enjoy it only for a short time... Because it hurts, and it got more fierce and violent as time goes by due to the alcohol consumptions....
I enjoy it only for a short time... Because it hurts, and it got more fierce and violent as time goes by due to the alcohol consumptions....
As a musician myself, I also like people to dance and sing in front of the stage when I was playing. As long as nobody hurts or disturbed. (Can you guess which one is me?)
Anyway, other than concerts in Bandung, I also went to other concerts like, good charlotte, Muse and my chemical romance, etc. There was once when I read the rules of the concert was "no Moshing and stage diving"... at first, I asked myself "why?"
I queue early so I can get in front of the stage. When the concert has started. I really want to see my fav band closer while enjoying the music. And not long after that, there was a moshpit beside me even though it's not a metal band! And it became so hectic. I was pushed aside, stepped on, getting punched until I can't see the band clearly anymore. I didn't queue early for those things.... BUT THANK GOD, the security came, and bring those people out. Even though I'm not getting my spot back, at least I can enjoy the music comfortably.
I queue early so I can get in front of the stage. When the concert has started. I really want to see my fav band closer while enjoying the music. And not long after that, there was a moshpit beside me even though it's not a metal band! And it became so hectic. I was pushed aside, stepped on, getting punched until I can't see the band clearly anymore. I didn't queue early for those things.... BUT THANK GOD, the security came, and bring those people out. Even though I'm not getting my spot back, at least I can enjoy the music comfortably.
My Opinion
Moshing has been a debate since long ago, especially in other country, because of the casualties. Some musicians are not happy with the idea of banning moshing and even threaten to not having a concert anymore if there are no moshing.
My thought is. If the musician itself want the concert to be full of moshing, then, it's okay. Because we know what we're gonna go through when we went into the concert.
How about concert in Malls?
As you all know, Mall is a public space. Lots of people went there to have fun, shopping, hanging out with their families, etc. And of course, some of them, only there because they know that their fav artist is having a concert.
If, the band/artist have a concert in their own theater and they don't have any rule that forbid moshing. Then, go ahead. Do your thing!
But!!!! If you see any other people, that didn't even enjoy the concert or if the band having a concert in a public space where there are no safety fence for the fans and commoners (a.k.a people who didn't know / didn't have any idea of what the f**k is going on). You should refrain yourself to do those things. You DISTURB everybody else!! STOP!
Especially Moshing.... Moshing is popular with hurting other people. even the innocents that didn't do mosh..... Some of them got hurt lightly, but some of them hurt badly, and die because of it.
So please... If you want to hurt each other, do it in your own space.....
Especially Moshing.... Moshing is popular with hurting other people. even the innocents that didn't do mosh..... Some of them got hurt lightly, but some of them hurt badly, and die because of it.
So please... If you want to hurt each other, do it in your own space.....
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I can do some example that maybe you straight men will not like, and will know how the commoners feel:
IF! Only IF!
With LGBT almost legalized in every country, and IF it got legalized here too. And some gay people having a Gay Festival in a Mall... And YOU as a straight man (which is not even gay, and hate seeing man with other man) accidentally came into a mall. And you see lots of gay men there, with their weird clothes and dancing with each other, hugging, etc (I don't know).... And suddenly some of them approach you and dance all around you, touching you, hugging you (because they thought you're there for the fest too...) Do you like it? Do you enjoy it? Do you? (if yes, then you should check yourself whether you're straight or not.)
And if you got disturbed, why?
is it because it's not something that everybody should see? it's not appropriate? you don't like it? it's annoying?
Well, same as you guys who do things in malls that people don't like....
And if you got disturbed, why?
is it because it's not something that everybody should see? it's not appropriate? you don't like it? it's annoying?
Well, same as you guys who do things in malls that people don't like....
I'm sorry that I gave you some of weird examples. I don't have any problem with my friends being a gay, but yeah, I do not feel comfortable seeing gays embracing each other in front of the public (even though some of my friends are gay, but they refrain themselves to do some hard core fan-servicing in front of me) , and I know straight guys also didn't comfortable.
Anyway!!!! Have fun guys!!! Have fun without annoying everybody else if you don't wanna be annoyed with other type of fans!!! LOL
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Anyway!!!! Have fun guys!!! Have fun without annoying everybody else if you don't wanna be annoyed with other type of fans!!! LOL
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About because it's baby METAL and therefore you have to do moshing.... well... like I said that it's in a public space... if you don't want to be kissed with people with the same gender, please don't hurt other people with your mosh... And don't forget that baby metal is half *baby* idol half metal (in my opinion)... so behave yourself in front of the children... and of course not all of the fans want to do moshing...
it's not that i'm not a fan of metal.... well... yeaaah... not like I used to... but I still stand by Cradle of Filth even though I knew they were already forgotten *wha*
(i just realized that THERE WERE A FESTIVAL CALLED HELLFEST!!!) LOL.... *sorry, inside jokes*
(i just realized that THERE WERE A FESTIVAL CALLED HELLFEST!!!) LOL.... *sorry, inside jokes*
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Now, what's your opinion?
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PS: Sorry for the off topic =))))))) I got distracted....
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